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Speaker 1:0:00Welcome to blur. This episode is about women specifically black women and their achievements at work and barriers to success.

Speaker 2:0:14I am proud to be a black woman because I come from a long line of strong confident queens. I admire black woman who embraced her identity and fight for what is theirs. As a black woman, my success will mean not allowing fear to keep me from achieving my goals and ensuring that those around me are doing the same.

Speaker 3:0:34So I'm proud to be a black woman because we are truly every evolving. Um, we never let ourselves remain complacent and we seem to move society forward just by our presence. Um, we are powerful beyond measure and you know, inherently as a black person and a woman, we've had to endure being disrespected on multiple levels. But even despite this, we've managed to rise above it all and fight for those who have not fought for us in the past. Um, this to me is a true example and manifestation of God's love on earth. And I am so proud to be a part of such a sister had like this.

Speaker 3:1:25I admire black woman, specifically black women who are in touch with their strength and their power as well as their softness and their vulnerability. Um, I think that is a quality that's often overlooked in black women because we're automatically position to as powerful people and angry black women and all these other stereotypes that we are not afforded the opportunity to be looked at as soft, kind, loving and vulnerable. And I definitely admire black women who are able to balance their strength as well as their softness. And finally, as a black woman, my success means that, you know, just my presence alone. I'm as an attorney in a field where there are very few women of Color, um, my success will allow other women of color, specifically black women to stand on my shoulders of my success. And my success will show the reality of what a powerful black woman looks like and the necessity of a black woman and what we bring to the table and how we can add value to any organization, to any space that we inhabit. That is what my success is. A black woman means to me, Oh, to

Speaker 2:2:49be a black woman because it gives me permission in purpose to stand out of the crowd. I admire black women who unapologetically and without reservation set pass of their own. As a black woman, my sick assess will me and my ancestors sacrifices or not in vain.

Speaker 4:3:18Yeah.

Speaker 1:3:18Blur is the wildly opinionated podcast, highlighting the perspectives of two young black professional women. We cover everything from politics, law, religion, pop culture, and the day to day we faced through storytelling and discussion featuring fem and craaap, Brittany and me, the world's most outspoken introvert, Kelly. Janine. In today's episode, we are talking about women of color, their achievements and barriers to success. As always, Brittany and I love interacting with our audience. We want to share a little bit about ourselves. Um, last week some of you participated in our online social media and asked us who our favorite childhood celebrity crushes you first.

Speaker 5:4:17Um, I think my favorite childhood, so everybody crush would probably be, I guess as embarrassing as this is it maybe like a little bow. Wow. I was obsessed with him for a minute. So at least you didn't say Lil Romeo? No, I didn't like Little Romeo because I was only for a little while. Um, so mine was Jay bug from btk. I'm trying to remember which one it was though. Well, I remember I had to look up the faces just a second ago. And then the other one I've always loved. I was heath ledger before he was the joker and it was creepy. But yeah, I'm going to have to look up which one Jacob with. I can't remember. It's not worth it. No, he was. Who's one of the funny channel. So there is a Marianna Fizz, Raspbian wagons and he kind of like a gap and he had like the, what is it, like the sweatband. He'd wear that. A lot of gap. I don't think so. Not that I remember. I'm looking at the picture. It doesn't look like he does unless he fixed it from when we were kids, which is very possible. I need to see. I wonder what he's doing with his life this episode until I remember we did have a little gap. Okay. I remember him. He was cute. He looks like Ray J. Guess it wasn't as interesting as last week. No.

Speaker 1:5:59So this episode a little bit uplifting in my opinion because we're talking about all of the amazing things women of color are doing. So I'd just love it. Brittany food, start off and talk about some of the unsung heroes that we never think about.

Speaker 5:6:15Right? So women of color are amazing, but like specifically, um, were really singing the praises of black women. Um, and I think that black women have been the innovators, mobilist and facilitators of global history, um, but they're often in a unique space because in order to overcome them Brian minutes, they have to brace themselves to move past both racism and sexism. I believe that the realities of racism and sexism have left many other black women who have been pivotal in global history under celebrated. Um, and in general, there are just so many women of color that we neglect to celebrate in history and in our own lives. And of course, you know what, Kelly and I can't discuss every woman on this episode. We do want to discuss a few people who have impacted our lives, do their work, so taking it way back, not way, way back, but you know, back to your grandparent's era, the civil rights movement.

Speaker 5:7:14And I think one thing that a lot of people don't really realize is that the civil rights movement would not have really been successful without black women. And there's often an aeration of black women in the civil rights movement, as much of the education on a tish trace centers around two men, which is predominantly like Martin Luther King and Malcolm X. and, you know, maybe I'm exaggerating that, but I'm Kelly. You can say like in your experience growing up when you were talking about this movement where he taught a lot about the women or the black women involved in it.

Speaker 1:7:44I'm the only woman that I would say I was taught about from civil rights as far as being as prominent as Martin Luther King Jr would be like Rosa parks. But even with Rosa parks, there was a woman before her that was actually the first to protest on the bus. Um, hold on. Her name is, I should know this awkward pause, you can cut up.

Speaker 6:8:16Um,

Speaker 1:8:18Claudette Colvin. Um, so she actually refused to give up her seat before Rosa parks, but because she was a single mother are like a, she had a child out of wedlock. She was seen as not wanting to be the face. The men of the civil rights movement decided they did not want her to be the face to the face of that protest. Um, so they actually set it up as a PR stunt for Rosa parks to do it. The time that we all know, um, which was amazing and courageous and we're not taking away from that. It's just kind of some nuances that a lot of people don't realize.

Speaker 5:8:52Right. And I think that's one of the things that I kind of admire about the civil rights movement, but in the, on the other hand, it can be a bit problematic was that I felt like a lot of the leaders during that time were very intentional about the way that they kind of strategize and put a lot of black people's issues at the forefront. It wasn't really sloppy like at all, like they were very skillful and like tactful in the way that they would execute a lot of things. And so unfortunately ms dot quad, it didn't fit into that narrative, um, but, you know, Rosa parks did and so, you know, we appreciate what she did and everything. But, um, even outside of Rosa parks, which is probably one of the more prominent women who I hear about the civil rights movement and Coretta Scott King, who often discussed probably more so due to her relationship to Martin Luther King, but truth be told her his legacy would not have lived on if it had not been for her.

Speaker 5:9:44Like she worked very, very hard to make sure the world did not forget who he was and what he had done. Um, but even outside of them, the National Council of Negro women and the southern Christian leadership conference, um, were two pretty big organizations that took that, um, that participated very heavily in the civil rights movement and advancing the rights of black people. In particular, the southern Christian leadership conference, also known as SCLC is responsible for most of the planning of the march on Washington and they had a significant number of black women who were a part of that organization and who helped plan that, um, many of whom actually raised questions about the visibility of black women in the movement. So us having that conversation is not really new. That's something that even black woman at that time were really bringing up.

Speaker 5:10:35There's a woman in particular who I'm just going to highlight I guess in, in some degree because she's, she was a lawyer and I'm a lawyer, um, but her name is Davi Johnson roundtree, and she was an African American woman and lawyer, also a minister and activist and she's one of my personal heroes because she was a firm believer in legal advocacy and ministry. And in my opinion, she was a gym during the time that she was around because it was rare that during that Jim Crow era, you would find a female lawyer, let alone a black female lawyer. Um, and she was exceptional at what she did. She won a lot of landmark cases. I'm dealing with school segregation and as well as criminal cases dealing with, um, the murders of, I think it was a white woman and a black man was being accused of that.

Speaker 5:11:23She, she did a lot to work with people and some have even described her as almost like a legal aid clinic before, like that thing before a legal aid clinic ever really came to be. Um, she was also one of the first women to be commissioned as an army officer. And Michelle Obama actually spoke about her and described her saying that as an army veteran lawyer and minister, Ms Dot roundtree set a new path for many women who have followed her and proved again that the vision and perseverance of a single individual can help turn the tides of history. So yeah, she was an amazing woman and not someone who I believe a lot of people have heard about. Like when you think about civil rights, when you think about, um, lawyers during that time who played a pivotal role in making sure that individuals are not, um, their rights were infringed upon. She was one of the big wigs and still her name is not released that a lot, but the New York Times did a really great write up on her earlier this year, which will link to you guys and our resources, um, because she passed away this either. So,

Speaker 1:12:29and of course the contributions of black women and women of color did not stop in civil rights history. There's a lot of rising and prominent women doing amazing things today that we'd love to highlight as well.

Speaker 5:12:43Yeah. So, um, I guess in today, especially this post, I don't really even post-trump yet. Can you say that yet or do we have to wait? I would say we're in the, we're in the middle of the trump era. Okay. This post trump election era because he's elected in this post trump election era. I feel like black women who told y'all all along that this was a no. Who told you all along? I'm just going to put that there have really been like doing their thing as far as rising to the forefront and taking on like a lot of the issues like head on, most notably, um, and probably because she's from my homestay Stacey Abrams, who is the first black woman to be nominated for governor and she's running in the state of Georgia, um, as the Democratic nominee. She actually has a real shot at becoming the nation's first black female governor. And I think what a lot of people don't realize about her is that she's kind of already broken down boundaries. Like she was the House Minority Leader in George's Assembly, in their general assembly, which is the first time a black woman lead either party in met General Assembly. So she's already kind of broken down.

Speaker 1:14:02I did want to also highlight, because we're doing hometown shout outs. Um, Alon Omar is one of the democratic state representatives in Minnesota. Um, and she's kind of on the path to, to be the first Somali American. I'm on larger platforms within politics as well. So she's really been breaking down barriers and it's got a lot of national acclaim, um, because of her immigrant story and being a black woman.

Speaker 5:14:28And is she also Muslim? Yes, she is. Yeah, I remember, um, I remember reading about her, her, um, her election was a big deal as well. But yeah, so these are just some of the women who I think today are really just put, like showing that black women are capable and able of doing these things. One of the reasons, and this is really petty but really small then I even with Stacey Abrams is because she know she went to an Hbcu and you know, later on she went to Yale law school, but also she wears her hair natural. Yes. Like girl, what? It's not common like in this political realm for black women to do,

Speaker 1:15:12which is essentially saying like being ourselves as we are as almost an act of protest within those spaces. Um, yeah. And along the current civil routes, civil rights route, um, black lives matter was actually founded by black women and I believe some of them are queer women as well. Um, so patrice con cullors, Alicia Garza, Opal Tometi, um, they are the ones that spearheaded that very, very prominent. I'm internationally known movement. I'm of course trying to stop police brutality, um, in the United States. And while of course there's been negative press which isn't shocking around it. Um, again, it's just a reminder. How many movements happen from those you consider

Speaker 5:15:58margins? Yeah, no, that's theories. That's real. Black lives matter has definitely impacted, um, the law. It's touched the lives I would say almost every American, like whether or not you have a positive opinion of it or not, you've at least heard of it. And their presence is pretty much undeniable as far as like any movement that's been dealing with police. Good you, they really took that issue on a kettle on and of course in 2018, which has been so eloquently coined as the year of the woman. Um, we cannot forget about Ms Dot Tirana burke who started the home youtube movement like a minute ago, like years ago. I was actually really pissed off when a Times magazine didn't put her on the cover. And that to me was just another erasure of a black woman who started something so, so prominent and so unnecessary. It was given the credit, I feel like she did there. I know they did a write up on her, um, in the magazine, but when they had the cover that was discussing like all of the me too movement, she wasn't on it. And for the life of me, I could not figure out why either.

Speaker 1:17:09Um, there's also some cool initiatives going on that I love to follow in science. Um, there's a black girls code nonprofit, um, which is looking at inspiring young women to learn how to code so they can enter into technology fields that are oftentimes very heavily white male. Um, and then there's a very cute story, I shouldn't say cute because she really was the boss in this situation, but I'm Mikala Mckayla Olmer. Um, she was 11 years old and founded beesweet lemonade and it was so popular and successful and she has amazing entrepreneurial skills that it ended up being sold to whole foods. So hopefully good for life or has a good college fund happening. Thanks to her, um, her.

Speaker 5:17:55Yes. So we set all of this to say, and we talk about all of these unsung heroes really just be like black women are like doing the damn thing and if you don't have one in your life, you better get you one, but that, that I'm naturally, like every woman, a women of color still experience a plethora of obstacles when they're trying to achieve their goals. Um, I probably get crucified for this, but one of the things that I think it's really important that we talk about is, um, the reality, but behind this headline that has said that black women are the most educated group in America. Have you heard that?

Speaker 1:18:32I have. What are your thoughts like, I mean, I think there was a statistical nuance for it. Um, and I think it's just important to keep that in mind. But that being said, I do think it's also equally important to celebrate the fact that I'm black. Women of our generation have really forged ahead in the education field and we really have, um, exceeded the expectations placed upon her demographic. Um, so I think it's an, I think it's okay to both wholeheartedly celebrate on our strides while also like your recording to say, um, recognize that that's not, there's more to the story,

Speaker 5:19:15right? So I feel like when I was researching this issue, it was kind of controversial. There was like a conflict within my heart because I am as a black woman, like I love being like black women are the most educated group in America. And like really just celebrating our successes and how far we have really come. Like if we think back to the times where like black women or black people in general were not permitted to go to certain universities and like how much adversity we overcame to get to the point that we are, um, it doesn't come natural to me to want to kind of discredit any of that or to take away any of the accomplishments that we had. But to be honest with you, this headline made me really upset because I actually felt like it was, um, a bit of irresponsible journalism. And the reason being is that by saying that black women are the most educated group in America, it's not really true because in order for us to be the most educated group in America, we'd have to have earned more degrees than any other group like period. And that just hasn't happened.

Speaker 1:20:14So are they more just focusing on like have a period of time or have the last few class graduates?

Speaker 5:20:22No. So this statistic from um, or the study, which a lot of the headlines were, what kind of exciting, and I don't know if it's that people maybe just didn't read the articles because when I was reading the articles, they actually noted this, but it came from a study done by the National Center for education statistics. And the study indicates that amount degrees conferred to black people. Black women received the majority. The data I'm covered, I'm the academic years of 2009, 2010. And it states that black women earn 68 percent of all associates degrees awarded to black students as well as 66 percent have bachelor degrees. Seventy one percent have master's degrees and 65 percent of all doctorates awarded to black students. So a more accurate headline should have read that black women are earning significantly more degrees than black men.

Speaker 1:21:14That's the article state. How many white men are in degrees in that same time period?

Speaker 5:21:20Um, the article didn't, but the study by the National Center for Education statistics does. And while I don't have the exact numbers on me, I can say that throughout pretty much every racial group, women earn more degrees than men anyway,

Speaker 1:21:35which is interesting because I, I'd be curious on the thought process behind that. Um, I feel like in some ways we're, we're pushing ourselves through these higher degrees and we'll probably get out about the same wealth wise as like a white man.

Speaker 5:21:53Zero Education. Yeah. No, I was thinking I don't know that theory

Speaker 1:21:57well, and what I mean by that is like, it's very, there's almost a celebrated entrepreneurialship if, if a male is able to like start his own business or become right facebook founder and kind of take that alternative route and still seen as a credible force in businessman. Um, where we probably have to have an MBA or a phd or a doctorate to kind of be considered legitimate in our field.

Speaker 5:22:25Yeah, I mean there's definitely a lot of work that a black woman has to do in order to, or just minorities in general, but like especially black women I have to do in order to kind of be taken seriously and specifically in rigorous fields. I'm just, if I can actually recall correctly, and I'll make sure I said this right or updated if I'm wrong, but actually as I was looking at the statistics or the study from the National Center for education, it was showing that I'm white men. I think the number is, I wish they were like completing college where I was actually decreasing. Well. Whereas for like women in other racial groups it was increasing. So then it kind of made me look at it a little bit sad. I like why don't you it like, what's going on here? Like are people dropping out because they're starting businesses or people kinda like not seeing the point of a bachelor's degree. They can get like tech certificates and stuff like that. Like I was just curious. I'd like to look more into that. Um, I know and the most recent academic year that the National Center for education statistics has is the 2013, 2014 academic year statistics and those statistics of similar with black women earning about 64 percent of bachelor's degrees and sixty cents cents, 60, 66 percent of associates degrees conferred to black people. So, um, yeah,

Speaker 1:23:53I think another key aspect to kind of the struggles that women of color are facing as we're trying to achieve greatness is work life balance.

Speaker 5:24:03Yeah. Um, yeah, I mean work life balance. I think it's probably something that every woman has kind of tried to figure out a different way to navigate. Um, in particular, one issue that I feel like I'm really passionate about in regards to that is, but family leave paid. And I mean it should be clear that family leave is a struggle for all women, but black women and black children suffer more than white women and children because of lack of access. I'm that black women have to family, we pay. In fact, I think according to a study that was done by the Centers for disease control, only 41 percent of black women have paid paternal leave. Wow. A parental. I said paternal have paid parental leave and the lack of paid parental leave has implication on how black women are actually able to nurture themselves and their children prior to and after birth and impacts even like small things such as breast feeding for like black children.

Speaker 5:25:03And we all hope we all know how beneficial breastfeeding can be to a child, but in the study that will link for you guys. They were actually saying that like there's a correlation between how long a child is breastfed and how much maternity leave their mother has. And women who ended up going back to work sooner, um, stopped breastfeeding their children sooner. And that has, um, that, that impacts the children. I'm like later on down the line, and it was even saying that at as young as like six months, black women's stopped breastfeeding their children a lot quicker on the women and some other racial groups. So they were linking all of that together

Speaker 1:25:44and there's even also just the mental burden of dealing with both sexism and racism within our lives. Um, so this is kind of moving into more of just an opinion or observation section. Um, but as we've talked about those intersections, there could be, you know, you could be in a household where you're still trying to balance how can I reach the best that I know I can do while also I'm making my husband feel like, you know, there's some fragility happening. Um, yeah. I don't know if you don't expand more on that.

Speaker 5:26:24No, I mean it's crazy. So like again, I have no idea. Maybe I'm homesick, but like when I was doing this or researching some of this, I just kept running across statistics in my home state, which we're now who don't know, it's Georgia. Um, and I saw some crazy statistic, I want to say it was like 73 of black women who have children are black mothers in Georgia are the breadwinners for their home. Um, and I was like, I don't know. That's crazy. I'm curious to see like how the dynamics are like, um, as far as like whether or not those women are married or if they, if they aren't married anymore. And um, I dunno, I mean, do you feel as though like the conversation, especially considering the statistics surrounding like black women and like marriage, what is it? They said like some 50 percent of black women aren't married. Right?

Speaker 1:27:21So oddly, like back to that one point, I, I read somewhere that if a woman earns more than her man, he is statistically more likely to cheat on her. So, you know, sprinkling some joy in your life today.

Speaker 5:27:41That's really sad. We have to choose like success or, or, um, infidelity. Like what?

Speaker 1:27:53I mean, it's not like if you earned more, he will 100 percent sheets. I know. It's just kind of like, I think it just speaks to a really sad state within America if men feel like their value is attached to money or attached to power, like we need to do better and teaching people how to find value and meaning within themselves and their relationships. Um, and it's also more common for like the husband to move the family, like if a husband gets a job in a different state, the whole family to move versus if the wife, like women are more likely to need to sacrifice promotions or new job opportunities for the sake of where the family is rooted in, you're more likely to seek out a new adventure, a new state to live in. If the husband is the one that's found a job,

Speaker 5:28:42women are almost more so expected to make those sacrifices that gets on that question. Now it's just kinda like, oh, well it has been, had the great opportunity and where I've had the good opportunity and they're on separate sides of the country. Like it's almost expected that wife will give up her great opportunity.

Speaker 1:28:58And then when you even look at when both people work statistically, um, they have noted that the woman basically has two jobs which is work and home, whether it's like cooking, cleaning with the kids. Um, so the, it's not as likely for the husband to pick up as much slack for it to be like an equal balance. Um, so even that, like burnout or that mental wellbeing decreases for black women who are fighting that dynamic

Speaker 5:29:31and then yes, so I mean family law, family like life work balance is a struggle for women and for some men too, we won't discount and you single dads out there, um, but also something that I feel like it's been discussed a lot. Women in particular has been wage gaps and I, you this a lot about this with a lot of men because a lot of men have attributed the wage gap between women and men and like minority women and men and two issues dealing with the professions that they choose. Um, and I'm not going to say that, you know, like deciding to be a social worker or comparing the, the salary of a social worker versus the salary of like a CEO. I mean I understand like, you know, the differences between that. But um, I think it's also worth noting that studies have kind of indicated that like black women or minority women in particular are kind of, don't want to say shunned but heavily pushed into these areas of low paying jobs. Also, I'm in an article done by the New York Times. It actually stated that when women enter male dominated industries in large numbers, the pay begin to decrease and that study was based on, or that article is based on a study that was done at Cornell University. So they were essentially saying that women's work is just not deemed as valuable as men's work, whether it's in the same industry or not.

Speaker 1:30:56I also just read an article this past week about how women are more likely to be pressured into volunteering for busy work tasks within work. Um, and, and then if you're perceived as always doing those lower level tasks, then you're less likely to be thought of for promotion. So that's things like, oh, can you stop these envelopes? Right. Um, so it's kind of like there's, a lot of times they're saying too, like a lot of women, they know there's nothing wrong with getting coffee for someone. It's like, it's not like it's beneath us, you know, but at the same time we're the ones being volunteered for that. And even within sports there is a huge pay gap and just respect gap in general.

Speaker 5:31:40Yeah. Um, can we, I know that there's something that you're passionate about and I hope you're listening to, but we're going to just like, I think the pay gap probably exists in most sports. I mean arguably I'm curious to see what it looks like in tennis, although I think it might still be there. But today in particular report we're going to discuss the w NBA versus the Mba. So I'm just going to give some quick fun facts about the w nba just to give you guys kind of a bigger picture of like what it looks like and why its existence and the importance of like barely paying their plants pairs is relevant to black women specifically. So 68 point five percent of the players in the w Mba are African American. Twenty four point five percent are white and two point four percent are Latina. Um, those statistics alone really make me wonder if you as a basketball fan can support equal pay for black women and not support, um, the w, NBA like it to me, the two, it doesn't coincide in addition to that, according to CNBC, the average salary in the NBA starts around 50,000 and caps at about 110,000 in the NBA.

Speaker 5:32:55However, the starting salary is 560,000. And according to Forbes magazine, the NBA referees, which these are just the people, you know, I'm gonna sound like such a whatever. These are just the people are bringing the game, the referees who aren't really, even the athletes, they earn a starting salary of $150,000, which is significantly more than the starting salary for that athletes and two MBA. That's crazy in a dish into that. Um, and this is just kinda like a fun fact, but the president of the president of the MBA is a black woman lisa borders. So as far as like seeing black women and power and like actually doing something, the w mba which has gotten like an a on, like diversity and inclusion is a great example of that, but it's not being supported in a way that makes it really sustainable and yeah. Go ahead Kelly.

Speaker 1:33:53Oh No. Um, and even just when you look at kind of that respect level, when you turn on Espn, you're pretty much never going to see whatever the female equivalent of that sport is playing unless it's tennis. Um, and then we get into the many issues of people coming for my homegirl Serena, they just came from her recently. The French Open Open. Yes, yes. I just, I'm not a tennis person, but like she's my favorite person in the world. I just, it just makes my blood boil the way they treat her. Um, so keep doing use arena.

Speaker 5:34:33Right. Um, but I mean like even outside of the context I'm in, Kelly, you're talking about like just respect that women get in sports in general, like even outside the context of the wwe Mba, women are not earning the same as men in sports. Um, according to Forbes, again, there are 2018 list of highest paid athletes. There were no women on that list and it wasn't just, you know, when are us athletes, they surveyed or they took into consideration athletes from like 23 different countries last year in 2017. Sabrina did make the list but she was the only woman. Um, and I think she was on the list for earning about 27 million or something along those lines. But like this year, nobody even know no woman is even on the list. So I feel like if we can equate dollars to respect or value in the industry, then it's very, very clear that women are not being valued in the sports arena and the way that they should be.

Speaker 1:35:31And I saw Jamel Hill is living, um, what is she on? ESPN, Fox, whatever. Sports Channel. I'm not a sports, yeah,

Speaker 5:35:41person because she's leaving, she's leaving that sports channel that did her dirty, so

Speaker 1:35:49salon and the words of Solange, where do we go from here to, to be hopeful about tomorrow as a black woman trying to achieve so much.

Speaker 5:35:59I mean, I think like the thinking about it as a black woman in general, like I think this is what I told you. I know we referenced this book a Lot, but this is one of the reasons why I had to stop reading sister citizen because I was like gonna spiral up into like a deep depression. But I think we should be hopeful because we should also understand that every individual success and the success for the greater and as long as we continue to do our best as we always have, like throughout like eternity to really navigate past these social factors that make women like us vulnerable to these terrible, terrible things. Um, there's reason and I, I, I strongly believe in the willpower and the fight that black women have and if I could put my life in the hands of a black woman, which I guess I did when I was being raised. Hi Mom, you know, I would feel very, very at peace. So I think we should be hopeful because we're the greatest. Why not?

Speaker 1:37:00It's very true and to not be afraid of being confident in that greatness. I think especially for me, I've just been taught by the society in general that like we value humbleness or not, not touting our own praises or

Speaker 5:37:19things like that. And I, I, but I also see that we should not be afraid to be confident in the fact that we are amazing in our accomplishments. And I say this as someone who will probably still not talk about my accomplishments, but you told people gave, you know. Anyway. So I also think this is a teaching moment for our listeners know Kelly, you are a beef. They thank you. Don't say anything else. Go ahead. Thank you. Anyways. Um,

Speaker 1:37:57and also looking for support. I find so much support and other women of color, um, wow. It sound like I was gonna start crying, but I'm not. I think that, um, just that shared experience and I've experienced that, that friendship or support from women of all backgrounds, all backgrounds and cultures that are women of color struggling to navigate society. Um, and I think just having the ability to listen to one another and having that shoulder to lean on or that person that will celebrate you if and when you don't feel like it. Um, I think that really just kind of helps keep me happy and helps keep me going and hopeful.

Speaker 5:38:42Yeah. I think it's important that we, that we, um, as we grow in our careers and our personal accomplishments and things like that, that we remember those people that really fed into us. Um, I've been, I've been fortunate throughout my career to have been surrounded by amazing women who really, really poured into me and took a vested interest in my success and my mobility throughout my career. And as a result of that, um, I was humbled and like I'm extremely grateful for their presence and knowing that I'm want to make the initiative to important to other people as well as I continued on throughout this journey. So the more that we kind of just give back what was given to us and help those who are aspiring, I think we'll be okay.

Speaker 1:39:30A man. So we want to leave you turn it over to you listeners to help us further this conversation. Um, so you can answer it on our social media pages, Blair podcast on twitter and instagram, or email us at podcast at Gmail Dot com and we'll choose some responses to share with you. Um, and just a reminder that you can always submit questions on anything you've heard or if this a topic you'd like to cover. But this week's question that we want to hear from you is, is there a black woman in your life who has inspired or influenced your current profession? If so, how do you celebrate her?

Speaker 5:40:14Right. So let us know your answer to those questions, guys on Instagram, twitter, or via email. Um, as always, it's been a pleasure and thank you so much for listening.

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